God Vs the Big Bang
Posted by Blondiepie – 12/18/2018
It’s getting closer to Christmas and in this day and time I believe we have lost sight of the true meaning of Christmas. But the argument is the big bang vs God theory. Okay let’s break this down. Let’s first start with God.
What do we know about God, most of us know God from the Bible or being forced to go to a church. Some of us know God by the inner feeling of him being there, of a force that you can feel, can’t touch but can feel in everyday life. Some have even left this earth and gone to heaven, some to hell. It’s funny that some people believe in Demons but not in God. How can that possibly be? But let’s move on. I’m going to supply some proof of somethings in the bible that confirms certain things happened, when done, we’ll move on to the other side of the argument.
THE CHARIOT WHEELS
We will begin with the chariot wheels that Ron and the boys found in the Gulf of Aqaba. In 1978, on their first dive at the site, they found these chariot remains. Like Noah’s Ark, these were not in perfect condition and required careful examination to see exactly what they were. They were covered in coral, which made it difficult to see them clearly, but it appears that the coral was the agent the Lord used to preserve them.
They found numerous wheels- some were still on their axles, and some were off. They found chariot cabs without the wheels, also: EXO 14:24 …in the morning watch the LORD looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians, 25 And took off their chariot wheels, that they drave them heavily:…
So far, this coincided with the Biblical account. They found several 6-spoked wheels, as well as an 8-spoked wheel. And finally, in 1988, Ron found the 4-spoked gold chariot wheel, which looks almost perfect. The reason this one was so well preserved is that coral does not grow on gold. The wood inside the gold “veneer” was deteriorated, which made it very fragile and for that reason, he has not attempted to retrieve it from the water.
The significance of these wheels is of extreme importance to the dating of the Exodus and determining which dynasty was involved. Back in the late 70’s, Ron actually retrieved a hub of a wheel which had the remains of 8 spokes radiating outward from it. He took this to Cairo, to the office of Nassif Mohammed Hassan, the director of Antiquities whom Ron had been working with. Mr. Hassan examined it and immediately pronounced it to be of the 18th Dynasty of ancient Egypt. When Ron asked him how he knew this so readily, Mr. Hassan explained that the 8-spoked wheel was only used during the 18th Dynasty. This certainly narrowed the date. We began to thoroughly research the Egyptian chariot and soon discovered that the fact that Ron and the boys found 4, 6 and 8 spoked wheels places the Exodus in the 18th Dynasty according to numerous sources, such as the following: “Egyptian literary references to chariots occur as early as the reigns of Kamose, the 17th Dynasty king who took the first steps in freeing Egypt from the Hyksos, and Ahmose, the founder of the 18th Dynasty. Pictorial representations, however, do not appear until slightly later in the 18th Dynasty….” (From “Observations on the Evolving Chariot Wheel in the 18th Dynasty” by James K. Hoffmeier, JARCE #13, 1976)
Here, we learn that it was only at the beginning of the 18th Dynasty that the chariot comes into use in the Egyptian army. The Bible mentions that in the time of Joseph, chariots were in use, but apparently they weren’t developed sturdily enough for use in war until much later.
The author goes on to explain how it was only during the 18th Dynasty that the 4, 6 and 8 spoked wheels are used- and that monuments can actually be dated by the number of spokes in the wheel: “Professor Yigael Yadin maintains that during the earlier part of the 18th Dynasty, the Egyptian chariot was `exactly like the Canaanite chariot:’ both were constructed of light flexible wood, with leather straps wrapped around the wood to strengthen it, and both utilized wheels with four spokes. In Yadin’s eyes, the four-spoked wheel is diagnostic for dating purposes; it is restricted to the early part of the 18th Dynasty. It remained in vogue, he says, until the reign of Thutmoses IV, when `the Egyptian chariot begins to shake off its Canaanite influence and undergo considerable change.’ Yadin believes that the eight-spoked wheel, which is seen on the body of Thutmoses IV’s chariot, was an experiment by the Egyptian wheelwrights, who, when it proved unsuccessful, settled thereafter for the six-spoked wheel. So widespread and meticulous is the delineation of the number of wheel spokes on chariots depicted on Egyptian monuments that they can be used as a criterion for determining whether the monument is earlier or later than 1400 BC.” (Quoted from the same article as above.)
For more information on the chariots of the Egyptian army, let’s go to the Biblical account, when Pharaoh and his army go after the multitude: EXO 14:6 And he made ready his chariot, and took his people with him: 7 And he took six hundred chosen chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt, and captains over every one of them.
This verse makes it quite clear that the Pharaoh took every chariot in Egypt- his own, his generals (or “Captains”) and a group called his “chosen” chariots, which seem to be in addition to his regular army (“all the chariots of Egypt”). Who might these “600 chosen chariots” have been? This group seems too small to have been a division of the army. We do not know the exact number in a “squadron”, but we do have information that a pharoah, one of his names being Rameses II, had an army of 20,000 troops, which was divided into 4 divisions. This would imply that each division consisted of 5,000 troops. But the army took more than just soldiers, many times. To get a little insight, we need to understand a bit about the Egyptian government and economy.
“The priests and military men held the highest position in the country after the family of the king, and from them were chosen his ministers and confidential advisers, `the wise counsellors of Pharaoh,’ and all the principal officers of state.” (From “The Ancient Egyptians- Their Life and Customs” by Sir J. Gardner Wilkinson, 1854, vol.1, p.316.)
The priesthood and the military were closely associated- the Egyptian government was a combination “church and state”, so to speak. Their system of “gods” was quite elaborate and we can’t possibly present an accurate description of their religious system in this limited article. But for our purposes, we need to understand that there were many, many gods in ancient Egypt- but the ultimate “god” was the one represented as the “sun”. This god was known throughout the various times as Amon, Aten and Re or Ra, among other names. And it was this “ultimate god” that the pharaoh was considered the “earthly embodiment” of.
The divisions of the army were named after the gods, ie. “the first army, that of Amon, the army of Re, the army of Ptah and the army of Sutech”. When the army set out to war, elaborate ceremonies were performed at the various temples, asking the various gods to give them victory over their foes. Then, booty that was gained as a result of victories was dedicated to the priesthoods and temples of the deities. All military victories were directly attributed to the favor of the gods.
Sometimes, the priests would accompany the army to the battlefield in hopes that the “god(s)” would show special favor in their endeavors. And the evidence at hand shows that when Pharaoh and his army set out after Moses and the great multitude, he took with him the all priesthood of all the gods of Egypt. After all, he had seen the power of the true God, the great “I AM”. If the Egyptian army ever needed supernatural intervention by the hands of their so-called “gods”, it was at this time. We believe that every priest of every god was summoned to accompany the army as they went after Moses and the multitude, as well as all the ministers of state.
All of this is leading up to a discussion of the gold-veneered, 4-spoked chariot wheel Ron found in 1988. Since he found it on the Egyptian side of the Gulf of Aqaba, that indicates that whoever was driving that particular chariot was at the rear of the army. It makes sense to us that a priest, who is not trained in battle, would be in this position at the rear of the army. Also, a gold chariot would not be practical for battle- these chariots were more “ceremonial” than those used by the chariotry.
We also know that the priesthood were given gold chariots, which were booty of various foreign defeats. There is an inscription of Thutmoses III (18th Dynasty) which relates: “He went forth, none like him, slaying the barbarians, smiting Retenu, bringing their princes as living captives, their chariots wrought with gold, bound to their horses.”(1)
In fact, we have many, many inscriptions of the kings of the 18th Dynasty receiving gold-plated foreign chariots, either as spoils of war or as tribute received from conquered peoples. There are, as well, inscriptions telling that these gilded chariots were many times dedicated to various temples and gods, which meant that the priests would receive these chariots.
We do know from inscriptions that the king did go to war in a “glittering chariot of electrum” as stated in one of Thutmoses III’s inscriptions- but, we doubt very seriously that he would have remained at the rear of the army. However, Dr. Bill Shea of the Biblical Research Institute, told us a few days ago, that he believed it was possible that the pharaoh may have been at the rear of the army.
With all of this information, we feel we may conclude that the gold wheel most likely belonged to a member of the priestly caste who was accompanying the army, or possibly a high minister of state. If it had belonged to the pharaoh, it would have probably had his “cartouche” or name on it- and the one Ron found did not have this, at least not on the exposed side. Either way, we have evidence from ancient tombs that the Egyptians constructed wheels of this design, and also the Retenu (Syrian) chariot wheels were of this same design and size.
Once they crossed they had a trek that left them hungry and thirsty. The Lord sent a lightening bolt down and split a rock in half spewing much needed water.
The Shroud of Turin.
Many experts have stood by a 1988 carbon-14 dating of scraps of the cloth carried out by labs in Oxford, Zurich and Arizona that dated it from 1260 to 1390, which, of course, would rule out its used during the time of Christ.
The new test, by scientists at the University of Padua in northern Italy, used the same fibers from the 1988 tests but disputes the findings. The new examination dates the shroud to between 300 BC and 400 AD, which would put it in the era of Christ.
It determined that the earlier results may have been skewed by contamination from fibers used to repair the cloth when it was damaged by fire in the Middle Ages, the British newspaper reported. The cloth has been kept at the cathedral since 1578.
The story of Noah’s Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events.
In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Robert Ballard, one of the world’s best-known underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is probing the depths of the Black Sea off the coast of Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time of Noah. Read More: https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533
Bottom Line there is enough evidence to prove that events in the bible happened, if you combine that with the faith that people have, and the many miracles that happen. God Does Exist.
The Big Bang
Here is my take on the big bang. You have Dinosaurs and per-historic man. God created life in 7 days? What if 7 days in Gods eyes is a million years. Just remember your lifetime in Gods eye is but a blink of his eyes. That’s one theory of mine. Dinosaurs I believe exist today, only on a smaller scale and mutated into birds and some into sea life. If you put any animal in an unsustainable environment they are either going to go extinct or mutate to fit their size, and food source.
Also below you’ll see info about the Shroud of Turin. It is said the only way to produce that image is a big flash of light, about as much as a nuke. If God was going to create the earth it probably would have started as a big bang!
There are also some scientist that say we co-existed with prehistoric man and also had children with them, another possibility.
As you can tell by my writings I believe in God. This is my own viewpoint I wrote this blog to give some information and for them to choose on their own. I highly suggest youtube videos on people who have died and came back. I also recommend you stay away from the occult, Ouiji boards, talking to the dead can open doors.
So to sum up, I believe the proof I’ve provided and there are many more out there, that the events in the bible happened, while you have your dino’s and your ape men, we have the power of the Lord, the power of prayer, and the physical evidence to back up the bible in way’s your evidence only proves a period in time.
I’ll admit there are many things in the bible that don’t make sense, like Adam and Eve and their children and their children, yes we know what that means, and also there are some references in the bible that their children married others. How if their the first. But know this, the Vatican has a treasure trove of information they don’t want you to know, also as I mentioned above it makes sense that God would create life in one big Bang, the Shroud of Turin was created with such a flash of light it was like a nuke went off, just wanted to restate that point. The rest as far as I’m concerned was nothing more than a Blink of Gods eyes, not 7 days.
Okay, here is why I like to start a conversation. Because of my lack of knowledge and my understanding of Adam and Eve I decided to go on a quest to find some answers, I found this site, I’m posting one page of theirs here, and a link to get more answers about the bible. My hope is that even nobody leaves the subject saying that’s it, there is no God and will seek out more information, after all we were all given the information as to the opposite of God in school, and even that is a subject that could be investigated too. But here is the possible answer to Adam and Eve:
How could there be descendants from Adam and Eve from only two sons?
Q: How could there be be descendants from Adam and Eve, if there were only 2 sons mentioned, and if there were sisters, how could they multiply within the same family?
A: Thanks for this question to us here at TruthBook.com. It is a multi-facted question, so please bear with me while I try to sort it out for you…the answer to your question is not all that simple. You don’t mention whether you are a Urantia Book student, but since you have asked the question as you did, I am going to assume that you are not all that familiar with the story of Adam and Eve as revealed in its pages…I will offer quotes from The Urantia Book, and provide you with links that you can follow so that you’ll be able to learn all about it at your leisure, if you so choose.
Adam and Eve, as presented in the book of Genesis, were supposedly the first two human beings. The Biblical account tells us that they had two children—Cain and Abel—and then ate from the forbidden fruit and were banished from Eden. However, The Urantia Book reveals the true identity of Adam and Eve, and the details of their true purpose and mission to our planet.
Far from the simplistic fable from the Bible, the story of Adam and Eve is a complicated one, and not well-understood by most of the world as yet. In The Urantia Book, we are given a complete picture of this amazing series of events—the mission of Adam and Eve was actually the third of five epochal revelations to our planet…
The human descendents of Adam and Eve sprang partially from the two children that were conceived as a result of default—Cain and Sansa.
Cain was, in reality, the son of Eve and Cano, and Sansa was the daughter of Adam and Laotta. Both Cano and Laotta were human beings—not members of the Violet race to which Adam and Eve belonged. If you have read this story (in the link above), you may recall that the liaison of Eve with Cano meant the default of the Adamic mission. When Adam realized what Eve had done, he “sought out Laotta, the brilliant Nodite woman who was head of the western schools of the Garden, and with premeditation committed the folly of Eve.” And these were the acts which effectively defaulted their mission and doomed both Adam and Eve to their degradation to mortal status.
If all had gone according to the divine plan, Adam and Eve would have procreated between themselves, and then their children would have procreated with each other (this was safe for them, and standard practice, as they were a pure-line race) until their numbers had reached one million. Following this milestone, the pure-line children of Adam and Eve would have begun procreating with the higher races of humanity then living on the earth. In this way the Material Sons and Daughters upstep the biological systems of the races, both physically and spiritually, through their life plasm. And this is the mission of an Adam and Eve to an evolutionary planet such as ours. Theirs is a mission of physical, intellectual, and spiritual upliftment to the evolutionary races of mankind. They are sent from celestial government as a revelation from God, and as biologic uplifters.
Please see Racial Amalgamation—Bestowal of the Adamic Blood. This section explains the normal course of events when a Material Son and Daughter (Adam and Eve) are bestowed on an evolutionary planet, and how Adam and Eve’s genetic patterns are distributed throughout humanity.
The two sons of Adam and Eve that most people know about from the Bible are Cain and Abel. However, in The Urantia Book, we learn that Cain, as mentioned above, was the offspring of Eve and Cano, but Abel was the offspring of Adam and Eve—the first child of theirs to be born after the default, and the move to the second Garden. Before this move, Adam and Eve had produced 1647 children, and another 42 were produced after the default, besides Cain and Sansa. In the ensuing years, Abel was killed by Cain.
You can read more about Cain and Abel HERE
And so, these two children of the Material Son and Daughter—Cain and Sansa—were the first mortals to be produced as a result of mixing Violet blood with human races. Again, this was not supposed to take place until the children of Adam and Eve had reached one million. and it was never to have happened by Adam and Eve themselves…but Sansa and Cain both produced children, and the racial mixing proceeded.
From The Urantia Book:
76:0.2 Cain and Sansa were both born before the Adamic caravan had reached its destination between the rivers in Mesopotamia. Laotta, the mother of Sansa, perished at the birth of her daughter; Eve suffered much but survived, owing to superior strength. Eve took Sansa, the child of Laotta, to her bosom, and she was reared along with Cain. Sansa grew up to be a woman of great ability. She became the wife of Sargan, the chief of the northern blue races, and contributed to the advancement of the blue men of those times.
76:2.8 Cain’s life in Mesopotamia had not been exactly happy since he was in such a peculiar way symbolic of the default. It was not that his associates were unkind to him, but he had not been unaware of their subconscious resentment of his presence. But Cain knew that, since he bore no tribal mark, he would be killed by the first neighboring tribesmen who might chance to meet him. Fear, and some remorse, led him to repent. Cain had never been indwelt by an Adjuster, had always been defiant of the family discipline and disdainful of his father’s religion. But he now went to Eve, his mother, and asked for spiritual help and guidance, and when he honestly sought divine assistance, an Adjuster indwelt him. And this Adjuster, dwelling within and looking out, gave Cain a distinct advantage of superiority which classed him with the greatly feared tribe of Adam.
And so Cain departed for the land of Nod, east of the second Eden. He became a great leader among one group of his father’s people and did, to a certain degree, fulfill the predictions of Serapatatia, for he did promote peace between this division of the Nodites and the Adamites throughout his lifetime. Cain married Remona, his distant cousin, and their first son, Enoch, became the head of the Elamite Nodites. And for hundreds of years the Elamites and the Adamites continued to be at peace.
And here is how the Violet race was deliberately added into the human races of those times, after the default of the original plan:
76:4.8 After becoming established in the second garden on the Euphrates, Adam elected to leave behind as much of his life plasm as possible to benefit the world after his death. Accordingly, Eve was made the head of a commission of twelve on race improvement, and before Adam died this commission had selected 1, 682 of the highest type of women on Urantia, and these women were impregnated with the Adamic life plasm. Their children all grew up to maturity except 112, so that the world, in this way, was benefited by the addition of 1, 570 superior men and women. Though these candidate mothers were selected from all the surrounding tribes and represented most of the races on earth, the majority were chosen from the highest strains of the Nodites, and they constituted the early beginnings of the mighty Andite race. These children were born and reared in the tribal surroundings of their respective mothers.
And so, even though the mission of Adam and Eve was not completed as planned, the human races of Urantia have still benefited from this infusion of Adamic blood.Multiplying within the family of Adam and Eve was accepted practice, and is the way things are done on evolutionary planets such as ours; however, since our planet had been laboring under the effects of the Lucifer rebellion things did not go as planned. Thus, we have this very irregular turn of events.
This has been a long reply, and I hope not too difficult for you to take in…I hope that this reply answers your questions about how Adam and Eve left descendents on our planet.
If this is the first time that you’re hearing this story, I hope that you’ll please have a look at the links I have placed into this reply, so that you can gain a new understanding of this most amazing pair, and this most amazing story in our distant past—a story that is still playing out on our world today.
The Urantia Book recital of the Adam and Eve fable places this actual event in historic perspective. Human beings had existed nearly one million years before Adam and Eve arrived here. They were to establish the most advanced culture on the world and then begin the process of uplifting all the native peoples of the world through improved genetics, extensive education, and valuable spiritual teaching. They failed in these regards but much good resulted from their failed attempt. A fable about Adam and Eve was written more than 35, 000 years after they lived and died here and this incomplete Bible story is all we’d know about this exceptional couple without the instruction of The Urantia Book.
All info about Adam and Eve was found at https://truthbook.com/ which has much, much more biblical information then the story of Adam and Eve. So please visit them for anyone seeking more.
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